Russian Agent Maria Butina Questions Trump About Sanctions at FreedomFest, Trump Promises to "Get Along" with Putin
On July 11, 2015, at the FreedomFest libertarian conference in Las Vegas, Russian intelligence operative Maria Butina publicly questioned presidential candidate Donald Trump about US sanctions on Russia. Trump responded that he knew Putin and believed they would “get along very nicely” and wouldn’t need sanctions. The videotaped exchange, which occurred three years before Butina’s arrest as an unregistered foreign agent, documented direct contact between a Russian intelligence operation and a presidential candidate, with Trump signaling willingness to lift sanctions in response to a Russian agent’s question.
The Public Question
Butina’s question was carefully crafted to elicit Trump’s position on US-Russia relations:
Self-Identification: “I’m from Russia”—immediately establishing her nationality and framing the question as coming from Russian interests.
Sanctions Focus: Her question specifically addressed whether Trump would continue sanctions “that are damaging of both economy”—the exact concern of Russian oligarchs and the Kremlin.
Policy Probe: Asked directly about Trump’s “foreign politics especially in relationship with my country”—seeking explicit commitment on Russia policy.
Framing as Dialogue: Positioned the question as seeking improved relations, not confrontation—a framing that would appeal to Trump’s self-image as a deal-maker.
Trump’s Response: Signaling to Moscow
Trump’s answer provided exactly what Russian intelligence wanted to hear:
“I know Putin”: Claimed personal relationship with Russian leader, suggesting back-channel communication potential.
“We get along with Putin”: Used plural “we,” implying broader American-Russian cooperation under his leadership.
“I would get along very nicely with Putin”: Made explicit personal commitment to positive Putin relationship.
“I don’t think you’d need the sanctions”: Direct statement that he would remove or avoid sanctions—the key Russian objective.
“We would get along very, very well”: Emphatic repetition reinforcing his commitment to Russia-friendly policy.
Intelligence Operation Context
This wasn’t a random encounter—it was part of Butina’s systematic infiltration operation:
Four Years of Cultivation: By July 2015, Butina had been cultivating NRA and conservative connections for four years under Torshin’s direction.
Network Building: She was actively building relationships with Republican operatives, including Paul Erickson, who helped her access political events.
Multiple Candidate Contact: Butina attended various Republican events and conventions, seeking access to multiple presidential candidates.
Videotaped Record: The public question created a video record of Trump’s commitment to pro-Russia policy that could be used for leverage or propaganda.
Intelligence Report: Butina would report Trump’s response to Torshin, who would relay it to Kremlin intelligence—assessing Trump’s potential as a Russia-friendly candidate.
Timing: Beginning of Trump Campaign
The exchange occurred at a pivotal moment:
One Month After Announcement: Trump had announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015—just 25 days before Butina’s question.
Still Early Primary: Most observers dismissed Trump as a fringe candidate, but Russian intelligence was already making contact and assessing him.
Before Major Opposition: This occurred before Trump became the clear front-runner, suggesting Russian intelligence was conducting systematic assessments of all Republican candidates.
Building Dossier: The videotaped answer became part of Russian intelligence’s assessment of which candidate would best serve their interests.
Pattern: Testing Candidate Receptiveness
Butina’s question exemplified Russian intelligence tradecraft for assessing American political figures:
Public probe → Record response → Report to Moscow → Assess receptiveness → Determine cultivation targets
Trump’s enthusiastic response to a Russian agent’s question about lifting sanctions would have signaled to Moscow that he was a prime target for further cultivation and support.
The NRA Connection
The FreedomFest event connected Butina’s NRA infiltration to direct candidate contact:
Gun Rights Network: FreedomFest’s libertarian audience overlapped significantly with NRA membership and gun rights advocates.
Conservative Access: Butina’s gun rights credentials provided entry to conservative events where presidential candidates appeared.
Paul Erickson Facilitation: Her American collaborator Paul Erickson, a longtime conservative operative, helped secure access to these events.
Building Bridges: The public question demonstrated to Trump (and other candidates present) that Russian “gun rights advocates” supported him.
Significance: First Public Trump-Russia Contact
This event represented the first documented public interaction between Trump as a presidential candidate and a Russian intelligence operative:
Video Evidence: Unlike many Trump-Russia contacts that are disputed or circumstantial, this exchange is documented on video with audio.
Clear Agenda: Butina explicitly identified as Russian and asked about sanctions—making the Russian interest transparent.
Receptive Response: Trump’s answer was enthusiastically pro-Russia, signaling willingness to cooperate with Russian interests.
Intelligence Assessment: The exchange provided Moscow with evidence that Trump would be receptive to Russian overtures and would prioritize US-Russia relations in a Russia-friendly direction.
Later Confirmation of Intelligence Operation
Three years later, the true nature of the exchange was confirmed:
July 2018: Butina arrested and charged with conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government.
December 2018: Butina pleaded guilty, admitting her gun rights advocacy was cover for Russian intelligence operation.
Cooperation Agreement: Butina agreed to cooperate with prosecutors, providing details of the systematic influence operation.
Prison Sentence: Sentenced to 18 months, later deported to Russia where she was celebrated as a returning intelligence operative.
Trump Campaign’s Response Pattern
Trump’s response to Butina’s question established a pattern repeated throughout his campaign:
No Skepticism: No questioning of why a Russian was asking about sanctions at an American political event.
Immediate Alignment: Instantly aligned his position with Russian interests rather than defending US sanctions policy.
Personal Relationship Claims: Asserted personal relationship with Putin as policy justification.
Dismissive of Sanctions: Treated US sanctions—imposed for Russian aggression in Ukraine—as unnecessary obstacles.
This pattern would repeat when:
- Trump invited Russian hacking of Clinton emails (July 27, 2016)
- Trump Tower meeting with Russian lawyer offering dirt on Clinton (June 9, 2016)
- Multiple campaign contacts with Russian operatives throughout 2016
National Security Implications
A Russian intelligence operative directly questioning a presidential candidate about sanctions created severe vulnerabilities:
Kompromat Creation: The video could be used as evidence of Trump’s pro-Russia stance if leverage was needed.
Policy Commitment: Trump’s public statement created pressure to follow through on promises made to what he likely didn’t realize was a Russian intelligence operation.
Signaling to Oligarchs: Russian oligarchs and operatives could see that Trump would be receptive to their interests, encouraging further outreach.
Intelligence Success: For Russian intelligence, getting a presidential candidate on video promising sanctions relief was a significant operational success.
Pattern: Captured Through Receptiveness
The FreedomFest exchange illustrated a key mechanism of foreign capture that doesn’t require conspiracy:
Foreign agent approaches → Candidate is receptive → Relationship develops → Mutual reinforcement → Policy capture
Trump didn’t need to know Butina was a Russian agent for the exchange to represent the beginning of capture. His receptiveness to Russian interests, documented on video, was sufficient to encourage Russian intelligence to invest heavily in his campaign.
When a presidential candidate enthusiastically tells a Russian intelligence operative that he would “get along very nicely with Putin” and wouldn’t need sanctions, that’s not a gaffe—it’s a signal that attracts further foreign cultivation.
The FreedomFest exchange in July 2015 marked the moment when Russian intelligence, through Maria Butina, confirmed that Donald Trump was a candidate worth substantial investment in terms of both intelligence operations and potential financial support through channels like the NRA.
Within months, Russian money would flow through the NRA to support Trump’s campaign, Russian intelligence would begin systematic hacking operations to help him, and multiple Russians would establish contact with campaign officials. The pattern began with this public question from a Russian agent and Trump’s enthusiastic promise to align American policy with Russian interests.
Key Actors
Sources (4)
- WATCH: Maria Butina Asks Trump a Question About Russian Sanctions in 2015 - Heavy (2018-07-16) [Tier 2]
- Russian indicted this month asked Trump question in 2015 - CNN (2018-07-16) [Tier 1]
- Maria Butina, Accused Of Being Russian Agent, Has Long History Of Urging Protest - NPR (2018-09-19) [Tier 1]
- Trump Told Woman Charged As Kremlin Agent He'd Drop Russia Sanctions - HuffPost (2018-07-16) [Tier 2]
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